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Will Femia is a Weblog enthusiast who, through good fortune and dumb luck, was introduced to the form as his position as chat producer for MSNBC.com careered into obsolescence. On any given day, Will can be found having already spent an unhealthy amount of time squinting at a computer screen.

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You're childish. No, you are. No. You.

Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:52 PM by Will Femia

I was looking at some of the reaction to that "bed-wetter" article we saw in yesterday's Clicked and saw an unexpected theme: defining maturity. I'm thinking the cultural context for the question is that we typically think of diplomacy and negotiation as part of a rational grow-up profile and conversely violence and rigidity are seen as symptomatic of impulsive immaturity. The challenge to that convention says that being a grown-up means learning from mistakes and not making them again. Immaturity is characterized by cowardice and avoidance of the facts to preserve a deluded comfort.

I also clicked this Hot Air interview with the author of The Death of the Grown Up. Some of the points here aren't as clear to me as they are to the author because it seems some aspects of the proverbial death are more a matter of changing styles, which are different from the more concrete, definitional aspects of adulthood. Being respectful might be part of the definition of maturity, whether a tucked in shirt is a way of communicating that respect is more a question of fashion than philosophy.

Speaking of maturity through experience, 12 Investing Mistakes I’ve Made (and How You Can Learn From Them) - Advice based on lessons from mistakes is so much more convincing and authentic to me than advice from "experts."  Admitting mistakes changes the tone of the advice from preachy to collegial.

Speaking of maturity, How to Accept Criticism with Grace and Appreciation

Still speaking of maturity (I think), remember those Canadian students who mocked the school bully by wearing pink? They've earned a day: Stand Up Against Bullying Day.

Beautiful hi-res moon photo

Birds in a fish tank - I feel like this would be somehow bad for the birds but I can think of any rational reason to justify that feeling.

Wall animation - It's a stop action film drawn on a wall. What's particularly cool is that as they make successive frames, they erase the previous frames, leaving a dark smear behind the animation.

Why municipal wireless networks have been such a flop.

Cops writing complaints about other cops who write them tickets. Obviously cops share a bond, but I almost wonder if this if fake because I can't imagine any of my cop friends complaining out loud like this.

Speaking of policing police, Missouri: Police Stake Out Brett Darrow Home - Darrow is the guy who got the cop fired by videotaping him making threats of false charges. I really like the idea of a blog devoted to the politics of driving. Considering the amount of driving Americans do it's surprising that isn't a designated news category.  We get reports on gas prices, crash tests, traffic conditions, etc., but not under the heading of "today's driving news."

Speaking of driving, Extreme car mods - Awesome sound on that first jet car video.

This crazy Excel error sounds like the stuff of conspiracy theories. Magical numbers and hidden calculations, surely coordinates for alien invasion or perhaps reflecting Lat/Long coordinates of a secret base or city where the world's elite will live after they nuke the rest of us off the planet. Send 20 bucks to me and I'll put you on the subscription list for the newsletter of the Church of the Excel Glitch. Don't be left behind. (Just kidding, don't send me money.) The actual explanation isn't quite as dramatic but I felt smarter for having read this so I encourage you to do so as well.

What does it mean when a nude-posing pop star has a high IQ? After giving it some thoughts and some clicks I'm pretty sure it means absolutely nothing.

Fight for Kisses - Babies train to fight back when they lose attention to cleanly shaven fathers. I didn't download the game so you're on your own there.

"$9.11 for Rudy"? Ick.

The Hardest Logic Puzzle in the World

Folks online are very excited for the new MP3 tab at Amazon.com. I read this review, which is generally positive. Lately people seem to cheer anything that represents a challenge to iTunes.

How to deal with unwanted friend requests, the ethics of de-friending, and other social networking etiquette predicaments. Not the most satisfying answers but a good summary of the problems.  The bottom line is that the more non-friends or distant friends you add, the less useful your Facebook account is.

As someone who has held up publishing a blog entry for lack of a good headline, whoever accidentally published a headline of "Think of a headline" has my sympathy.

"A film like Good Luck Chuck isn’t made, so much as perpetrated, like the seedy murder of a pimp in a dingy alley." In the way that negative reviews can be fun to read, this one is.

Speaking of bad movies, I think I saw one like this: "Two tractor-trailers carrying 70,000 cans and 44,000 bottles of Moosehead Lager were stolen early Wednesday morning." Does Canada offer a nickel back on cans? If so, I have an idea for how to catch the thief.

Where vehicles go to die. There are more links in the comments but I don't see any mention of the Staten Island boat graveyard, which has yielded a lot of great photos.

Coming soon to a terror scare near you: Urballoon art. It's a projector hanging from a balloon that projects text and images to the ground. Log into the site to see the map of where the balloon is at the moment and to submit your photo or message to be projected.

Hand written lawsuit filed against Google: "When the social security number is turned upside down in its entirety it is a scrambled code that does spell he name Google."

I don't really buy the explanation that no one noticed that this building looks like a swastika until Google Maps came along and we could suddenly see it from the sky. There's no way an architect doesn't know what his/her building looks like from above. Could it be they just said, "Oh heck, who's gonna notice?"

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Re: Moosehead Heist

Will,

There is a refund for cans and bottles ... it's a dime, not a nickle.

T.
the fish tank is designed overstrong for its water.
the bird cage is not as strong, but strong enough.


IF    the bird cage gets a leak at the bottom, the water in the fish tank enters the bird cage, rising till the levels are equal, say half present height.

the birds cannot escape, small chance might directly drown, or have nowhere but perches to rest, and drown after claw tiring.

very unlikely, but why would you take a chance, when the worst case result is dead birds.
The only thing I can think of regarding that swastika building (actually 4 separate buildings) is that they committed to those L shaped barracks before thinking about how they would have to be arranged in a square plot of land. After that they just assumed nobody would publicize an aerial shot of it.
It's that or conspiracy theory land and I don't want to go there...
The author of the problem states (1) that the Islanders will automatically arrive at the answer to *any* logical problem and (2) that the answer *can* be deduced logically. Therefore the answer to the question is: "Everyone with blue eyes, that night" because the Islanders have already figured it out for themselves, per 1 and 2. The reader isn't required to state *how* the Islanders arrived at their conclusions because that's not the question!
Ok, here we go:

1) Swastika Building: Who cares? The swastika was around before the Nazis. Anybody who takes offense at the random configuration of buildings is looking for something to be offended by. This is just stupid.

2) Every last cop who bothers Darrow should be stripped of their badge and thrown into one big jail cell with all the "criminals" they have put away. I say "criminals" because chances are with cops like that that half of the people they have put away haven't done anything wrong. This is why I don’t like cops.
There is only one thing worse than a crooked cop, and that is a crooked politician.

3) "The Hardest Logical Puzzle in the World"???
Really? How can you possibly say that? (I don't mean you Will, I mean the guy who published the puzzle on his website) I mean, logically, you would have to have heard every logic puzzle ever created (which would also mean you would have to learn almost every language, or at least find someone to translate all the logic puzzles in languages you don't know to your language without loosing anything in the translation). Not only would you have to have heard them all, but you would have had to solve them all on your own, without help, to be able to say which is the hardest.
And, logically thinking, if you solved logic puzzle after logic puzzle, you would eventually become better at solving them. This would mean that the puzzles you solved later in this endeavor would ‘seem’ easier since you have become better at solving them.
I don’t believe that this can reliably be called the hardest logic puzzle in the world, and to do so is simply illogical.
I don't get the logic puzzle at all...or even understand what the puzzle is.  Where was the question being asked?

As for the cops thing, if it's true I have no pity.  Too many times I've seen a copy toss on his lights just to get through a stop light, and then see him pulled over on the side of the road just ahead.  Perhaps he did need to be there, but what prevented him from waiting at the light like me?  That 2 minute difference was that vital?

Where did you get that Google lawsuit from?  It's fantastic.
I clicked on the Death of the Grown Up link and there was Michele Malkin's face.  I clicked off as soon as humanly possible.  I refuse to look at anything involving this whore of hate. Thanks but no thanks on that one.
From the news articles I saw on the swastika building, someone spotted it long ago, but because you can't tell from the ground, they left it. So someone did know, they just ignored it. See this (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i8o4u2vVJlLcEt_tFMtGnH_sYJ4w) article from the AP.
So cops aren't supposed to write cops a ticket?  What a bunch of whinners.  No one should get the pass just because they are in the club.  Really proves some cops think they are above the law.
Michael, from what I know, the guy who posted "The hardest logic problem ever" does do a lot of them.  And it is a stupidly hard logic problem.

I know the answer to it, but it took a long time, and someone helped me out.  The answer is not "Everyone with blue eyes, that night."  It's not lateral thinking, there's no clever answer to make it work.  The answer is more "2 on day 16" or something. (That's not the right answer). The answer is actually a bit recursive.  All the islanders must have figured out the solution for it to work though.  They're all perfect logistians because if one person didn't know the solution, it all crumbles, and the author attempted to make it as clear and fool proof as possible.
PeaceOnYou's comment only reinforces my belief that some "progressives" aren't as progressive as they say. Nor are they "tolerant" of anyone's opinion if it differs from theirs.
The logic problem is odd, but not that impossible.  Figure it this way-

The lady was someone with blue eyes.  If you were on the island, and you never saw anyone else with blue eyes, you'd say "well, it's gotta be me" and leave right away that night.  If you knew one other on the island, you'd say "maybe it's me, but if I do have blue eyes, the other guy knows he's the only one, he'll leave tonight."  So, you wait, and if he doesn't leave, then you know you have blue eyes too, you'd both leave the second night.  If you knew there were two other people with blue eyes, you'd do the same- wait the right number of days, because if two others left the second day, you'd know neither saw yours as brown, but if neither of those two left, then they're seeing yours as blue.  With three others, you'd need to wait another day, and so on.  Because you know there's at least 99 people with blue eyes, and everyone else also knows that, you'll have to wait until the 100th day to know for sure.  At day 100, all the blue-eyed people will leave.
As for the swastika, yeah, it is one.  What everyone seems to be leaving out are the two buildings to the southwest of the swastika, which are allied bombers on the way to bomb it.  It's an architect's 'art' statement, and it's anti-nazi, not pro-nazi.
re:  Cops writing complaints about other cops
As we say at work "Suck it up Nancy"  Now you know what the rest of us deal with.  Maybe you might be a bit nicer the next time someone in the public is in a hurry and travels as fast as everyone else.  Take the ticket.  You aren't above the law.
The Urballoon project seems pretty interesting...of course, it only takes one intellectually-challenged guy to ruin it by looking at the ground beneath it and going, "Look!  Aliens are transmitting messages to us!!"
The answer to the logic question is the Guru leaves, since she states that she sees someone who has blue eyes, who isn't her, then she must know her own eye color. At least I think that is it.
The Pulchritudinous Patriot- it is hard to accept an interview about adulthood from a woman who dressed up in cheerleading outfit to mock someone she didn't agree with. She has never demonstrated an interest in anyone else's opinion except her own- why should I? MM does not deserve a forum and I would not waste my time listening to her opinion about anything.  That is called adulthood- knowing who is not worth your valuable time.  
I think the sharpest point in the Malkin interview was how the counter-culture has become the mainstream so basically it's simply a pose or way of marketing oneself. Otherwise it seemed like a bunch of fairly innocuous observations.
On a side note what's with all the vitriol directed at Michelle Malkin? I mean to post a message simply to attack her while saying you didn't watch the interview? Have these people ever read Kos or DU or any number of Left wing sites? Malkin is tame and respectful by comparison.
Ah, so by that rationale Stan of NY would oppose the Prez. of Iran speaking at Columbia.  And similarly,  if a pig had a better personality he would cease to be a filthy animal (except for that Arnold on Green Acres).
Wow, that was one of the most beautiful Moon pics I have ever seen!
"Everyone can see everyone else at all times and keeps a count of the number of people they see with each eye color (excluding themselves), but they cannot otherwise communicate."  The way I read this, the only thing the natives can communicate with one another is their eye-color counts, which is sufficient for everyone to determine their own eye color on the first day.  They all leave right away!
We're getting such high resolutions of the moon.  Do you think we could just zoom in a little and see if we actually visited it or (speaking of those conspiracy theories).  I guess then we would be told it was Photoshoped.
Re: Brandon's post, I think China's current lunar exploration project will be the first that could actually see evidence of the Moon landings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang%27e_1#Objectives
Unfortunately there will surely be some imaginative person out there who will come up with a theory as to why they photoshopped a U.S. flag into the images...
the solution to the logic puzzle is here
http://xkcd.com/solution.html


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