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Will Femia is a Weblog enthusiast who, through good fortune and dumb luck, was introduced to the form as his position as chat producer for MSNBC.com careered into obsolescence. On any given day, Will can be found having already spent an unhealthy amount of time squinting at a computer screen.

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Crowd control

Posted: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:30 PM by Will Femia

High profile tech bloggers have been fretting about a new popularity list that has some people trying to -or feeling tempted to- game the system to move up the list. I don't find the matter very compelling and haven't talked about it much here but it has produced some good tangential threads of discussion.  The question of what it means to be popular -is it number of readers, ability to drive traffic, quality of readers...- came up last week.  This week I find the topic turning to the collective consensus necessary to make something popular. Inherent in that discussion is a revisit to the "wisdom of the crowds" idea.

Reading this entry I saw a highlight quote from Tim O'Reilly describing an aspect of "the crowd" that we don't often see and it's stuck with me for a couple of days:

"When a group of seemingly independent actors are making decisions based on the same limited pool of information, they become more highly correlated, and thus 'stupider.'"

When we talk about the wisdom of the crowds we usually focus on the product, the aggregate. Advice about harnessing crowds also keeps to the fore the final product or project or program that manages to gather people together. But now we see that what is equally, if not more important is the diversity of the crowd and particularly the diversity of the information it draws from. The mind reels with examples of consensus that proved false because even though a variety of people agreed, they were all basing their conclusions on the same limited information. AhemIraqahem.

Speaking of wrangling crowds, The making of the Muslim left - The writer uses his experience with the proselytizing of Southern Christians to understand the "Islamic right" and design a plan for the creation of a Muslim left. The suggestion seems to be that you can use the same propaganda techniques to build a loyal group of good guys the way fanatical bad guys are rallied.  I think there's something inherent in the techniques that produce the kinds of groups that acquire members this way that ultimately defeats the goal but it's an interesting idea to think about. Good comments section too.

Still speaking of wielding crowds, I had planned to pair to this Rush Limbaugh item in connection with the Randi Rhodes story before that fell apart but it still has some value in the context of crowd control, whether you're talking about siccing a mob of loyalists on a journalist or hiring a team of reporters to investigate or "expose."

By the way, if you can't bear to click the words "Rush Limbaugh item," the thing he's railing against is a new site called ProPublica, "a non-profit, investigative news room" which is apparently financed by people Rush doesn't like.

Speaking of social networking ideas, Web 2.0 porn sites is a plain boring SFW page that links to some extremely unsafe for just about anything but the privacy of your own lap sites. From the Web trends perspective, it's worth noting that the idea of online community members making recommendations to each other has applications to online porn as much as it does to online news or anything else. That said, I'm not sure (or maybe I'm not expert enough in porn to notice) there's anything distinct about how the crowd selects porn versus professional pornographers.

Speaking of sex in the computer age, Will humans marry robots in 50 years? Draws from this longer story on MSNBC.com. Am I missing something or would marrying a robot require granting it some kind of person status? Otherwise, wouldn't a robot be property? Anyway, Adam put together a list of the most desirable female robots (Hey, why would it just be men who would marry robots? Women have sex with robots too.) but I'm thinking if you're going to include the Bionic Woman as a robot you have to include Seven of Nine as a robot.

Speaking of the business of sex, When is rape at gunpoint not rape? When it’s “theft of services.” This feminist blog highlights the story or a prostitute who was forced to have sex with men who didn't pay (and who she didn't agree to have sex with anyway) and the judge doesn't see the forced sex as rape but as a product stolen without payment.

From the mailbag Tracy informs us, "[These photographs] are shot from INSIDE the photographer's mouth with a pinhole camera.  They are some of the most bizarre, yet interesting photos I have ever seen."

China out-Americas America - Which is to say, it appears that they've produced a better P2P Web product because companies there have greater freedom to pursue the technology.  "It’s not unreasonable to consider that next year and into the future that much of what we do online may end up being based on Chinese designed technology and programming, and not good ol’ fashioned American know-how."

Speaking of chilling effects on research, Mail harmless bacteria, go to jail. Imagine if they'd put LEDs on it.

The top 35 Environmental blogs

13 Reasons your Facebook account will be disabled - Not only is this handy for Facebook users but it's pretty good insight into how Facebook polices itself.

Mini-pigs - I've heard good things about pigs as pets.  They're smart and house-trainable. How long before this is the new vanity pet?

Real time salary calculator. Enter the amount of money you make and it shows you a clock that counts off in money so you can watch your salary accumulate by the penny. It reminds me of the math we used to see when Michael Jordan was at his peak and people would figure out that he was making ten thousand dollars a second or something crazy like that. It also works as an interesting perspective on your monthly rent.

Is there life on a moon of Saturn? - "Dark, organic-rich material is splattering the face of Iapetus as it orbits Saturn, like a car whose windscreen is sprayed with water from other cars on a rainy day." If there's organic material on the moon as a result it of passing through space, doesn't that mean there's organic material in the space it's passing through?

Speaking of space, Anatomy of a black hole

Speaking of cool Flash animations this is a map/timeline of religion spreading across the world. We've seen this before in a less polished format. This one's nice and clear.

Speaking of cool global maps, this one shows the number of doctors per person in countries around the world. What's up with Australia? (Never mind, I misread it.)

Also on maps, How Google maps the world

Since reading this story about the guy trying to mail fighter jets to Iran one piece at a time I can't get the Johnny Cash song out of my head.

Happy Birthday Olive. (108!)

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Comments

Not sure I understand your question about Australia. They have almost the same ratio as the US...Am I missing something?
"AhemIraqahem"

Isn't he the new Prime Minister or some such? :-)
Chris, you're right, I misread it. Thanks.
I'm not an expert, but I believe the article on Saturn's moons is a touch misleading. I could be wrong, but when they say organic-rich material they aren't saying its alive. They are saying its material that is used in life. (hydro-carbons?)

Also, the map of religions was fascinating to watch. It was a little simplified, and didn't have very many dates, but still very cool.
Will, have you seen the new video on what REALLY happened to the life sized X-Wing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgF9hBL-CuA
I have little doubt that mini-pigs will turn into the next pet/accessory.  After all, they're the perfect size to fit into a woman's purse.  I can't wait to see when two celebutantes' pet/accessories (I'm thinking mini-pig vs. chihuahua-ratdog) try to tear each other apart on the red carpet.  TMZ will be all over it: "Now watch the two crazed pets bite into each others' flesh...in super slo-mo!"

BTW, speaking of women's purses and another subject you brought up, ever wonder how women can cram an entire houseful of stuff in their purses?  It's because there's a black hole lying at the bottom of each of them.
Concerning the Rush Limbaugh and Randi Rhoades stories:

Isn't it a bit... odd that we live in a world where journalists and broadcasters become celebrities?  

Isn't it a bit... ridiculous that the person who reports or comments on the news can eventually become the subject of news stories?  It's almost like becoming a journalist is starting down a slippery slope that eventually makes you the fodder for other journalists.  Or is it because some individuals consciously make the decision to promote themselves, not their stories?
I was catching up on some blogs when a story caught my eye.  I read a recent post on Clicked which referenced stories involving Rush Limbaugh and Randi Rhodes (a talk show host on Air America, a “liberal” talk radio network).  
Mark, I don't think it's an accident. Making someone famous has been analyzed to a science and it can be done to anyone whether they have talent or special knowledge or not -- as we've seen. In the news business there's definitely a sense of "making news" not just reporting news.  When Matt Lauer interviews Larry Craig, the expectation is that headlines will come from that interview. Those headlines might be news but more importantly Lauer has "made news" with his Larry Craig interview.

Reporting news is hard and costly and not very efficient, just like learning a skill or developing a talent.  Why go through all that when you can sit in a studio and make news with interviews and analysis? Why go through all that when you can kick off a scandal loop that feeds itself and fuels a gossip industry about nothing?

Sometimes I think the same thing about sports by the way.
Thanks for your feedback, Will (and I apologize for hitting your post with both a trackback and a comment, but the trackback was an afterthought).

Fair point:  there's certainly intent (both ego and profit motives) behind making a celebrity out of a journalist.  The media does the same for any individual whose story is deemed to be "newsworthy" - why not feed on their own?

I guess from a more naive, antiquated point of view, the journalist was supposed to be a paragon of fairness and integrity (Murrow, Cronkite, Woodward and Bernstein are the first names that spring to mind), but the reality is that most people have the same desires and temptations regardless of what job they do.  I'm sure not immune to it!  Even paragons of purity like religious leaders have problems keeping their robes spotless.  So it's not surprising that people of all stripes will try to do the easy thing to meet their goals.  Unfortunately, you do have to wonder where you can go to get the unvarnished truth and, more importantly, where any motivation exists to publish the same.



The rape thing is absurd anyway: holding someone at gunpoint and stealing something from them is called armed robbery; further, keeping her there at gunpoint is false imprisonment and kidnapping. So, even if this judge is trying to make a point, the secondary charges do not go away (and are very serious). There is no legal basis for holding a gun on someone with the implied threat to use it, and it not being an armed assault. Even in Texas they know better.


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