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ROFLections on a conference

Posted: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:01 PM by Will Femia

I attended ROFLCon over the weekend, a two-day conference devoted to Web memes and the phenomenon of viral popularity. What follows are some of my observations of the event. This isn't a typical Clicked linkblog post but it does apply to a lot of the themes and sites we explore here. I'll have a regular Clicked up later, including the re-launch of Ralph's Recommendations of free Web video games.

The nature of "famous on the Internet"

David Weinberger gave they keynote address and hosted a panel with such viral luminaries as the Chuck Norris Facts guy and the One Red Paperclip guy. The panel itself would prove to be a template for some of the less impressive aspects of the conference. The people behind these highly successful memes often were as clueless about how it happened as the people trying to harness the power of viral distribution for commercial and marketing purposes. The almost universal formula was "I was bored and just put up this thing to amuse myself and suddenly..."

But one point in Weinberger's keynote did stick with me and I'm still turning it over in my head. He made a distinction between broadcast fame and network (p2p) fame. Broadcast fame is the traditional sort - "one to many" in the lingo of tech conference enthusiasts - with powerful single source feeding its content into the consciousness of its audience. Network fame, then, is the Internet kind that relies on word of mouth and social recommendations instead of a ready-and-waiting audience.

What's bothering me about that construction is that I ordered HBO because everyone in the office was talking about a hot new shot called The Sopranos. And in fact, while I do flip channels and find favorite shows by chance, I think most of the traditional media I consume comes to me by way of some kind of social suggestion, not because I'm simply leaving the TV on waiting for whatever new show or star it puts in front of me. Isn't that "buzz" that surrounds successful shows the same as "network fame?"

And on the other side of the equation, most of the people behind really successful Web memes had some part of their story involve a really big traffic driving site. "And then we were Slashdotted..." "And then we got on Boing Boing..." So was it really a network that created the fame, or was it closer to the broadcast model?

The Web meme is not as new as you think

I don't recall if I've linked to much content on TextFiles.com. I remember looking at it briefly and thinking it was sort of a nostalgia site with a lot of old Web content. In fact it would be better described as an archive or a library, and its host, Jason Scott gave the most unexpectedly fascinating presentation at ROFLCon. He took us all the way back to newspaper headline styles of the 1800s, through the telegraph and Hamm radio and into the early Internet, with the overarching point that memes and in-jokes and other pass-along content is as old as the technology that makes it possible. It was valuable perspective at the outset of a conference celebrating a new wave of memes as though the idea of stupid things becoming wildly popular without the aid of mainstream media is something invented in the last few years (the conference site's tag line is "in the making since '94). It also helped validate the general editorial decision I've made with Clicked about not getting too worked up about every little running gag that comes down the (intar)pipe(s). Then again, Scott was emphatic in pointing out significant figures in the history of communications culture who are nearly literally (but for Scott) forgotten to history.

Scott called it a "natural human thing" to want to share cool stuff and make art. I'm not sure it's a universally natural human thing but certainly some humans seem to do it as part of their nature. I made a note of his recommendation of The Victorian Internet for more on the deep history of people playing with communication technology.

The past is the future

Scott was asked about what he expects for the future of the Internet given its history. More stuff in other languages was one answer that seems undeniable. He also predicted more rediscovery of old things. That brought to mind the "A year ago today" box on the old Blogdex aggregator and Jason Kottke's Gems from the archive of the New York Times. But in a later panel discussion someone mentioned the story of a Digg user innocently recommending Fark without realizing Fark's significance - particularly to sites like Digg, and that's probably closer to Scott's point.

Other meme-making panelists made mention of the fact that even once the joke is old there's always someone new on the Internet who hasn't heard it yet. Matt Chapman, co-creator and the voice(s) behind Homestar Runner mused that the Internet makes things become retro cool faster. He suggested the new retro irony cycle is about four years.

In a related remark, the 4Chan founder pointed out that often part of the problem of starting a meme is that by the time it's popular the community where it originated thinks it's an old joke and they're sick of hearing it.

Distributed networking and shattering the monoculture

Jason Scott was also critical of what he called "the monoculture." It's not hard to imagine a future in which the Internet has spawned lots of small communities that elevate their own celebrities and customs. A related theme cropped up a few times through the conference, a theme that could only come up at a gathering of geeks with a sense of history: criticism of the monster sites that are the current gods of Web culture. Scott was bitter about Wikipedia, pointing to the success of Usenet as proof that one site doesn't have to posses everything. At other panels a similar criticism came up about YouTube acting as the video sharing default. And MySpace killing the personal homepage. The interconnectivity of the Internet, its most defining characteristic, means that everything doesn't have to live in the same place. I found myself wondering if computer education will eventually catch up and create a situation in which people prefer to construct their own Web presence.
 
Lessons on fame's lightning strike

I don't have a lot of notes to relay from the panel of Tron Guy Jay Maynard and Matt Harding but it provided some of the best perspective on Internet fame I've ever heard. Harding used the sausage factory metaphor for mainstream television media in a way I hadn't heard before but with an undeniable accuracy. Usually we think of the media sausage factory as the ugly production side that creates the usually clean, professional product that appears on the screen. But Harding's twist pointed out that the other problem with a sausage factory is that everything comes out sausage. No matter who you are or what you have to contribute, the professionals in legacy media are trained to know their product and how to produce it and they'll turn you into a sausage no matter what. He mentioned this as an explanation of why he preferred to represent himself and not submit himself to mainstream machinations in spite of his popularity.

Other advice from Harding that stayed with me: When you do an interview, know what you have to say (in Harding's terms, "know what's in your bag") and keep that in mind. If anyone's keeping track of our list of lessons for dealing with instant fame so far:
  • Have enough product. (Don't get caught showing your gizmo as a guest on the Today show if you don't have lots of gizmos ready for sale in the ensuing demand.)
  • Know what's in your bag (and bring it).
  • Beware of sausage casing!
  • And one I learned the other day from a colleague with an interest in documentary filmmaking, make sure you have a "next project" lined up in at least enough detail that you can talk about it when you're inevitably asked "So what's next now that you're so famous?" (Every panelist was asked this question either about their particular meme or about their area of Web specialty.)
We are nerd

Jay Maynard, meanwhile, was the living embodiment of just about everyone at the conference. In short, he's a nerd who has come to embrace his nerdiness in the face of horrible ridicule. Whether he realized it or not he was a constant piece of performance art, mixing with the crowd at the conference and even attending social gatherings outside the conference, his suit a representation of social awkwardness, personal uniqueness, nonconformity, self consciousness and frankly the cruelty of cultural standards. He was the bee girl. At ROFLCon he was us.

(I'll add that this was in contrast to Leslie Hall who also represented nerd empowerment to some degree but only, from what I could see, in acting as a character.)

Where Maynard's example was perhaps most informative was in answering the question of whether (and when) Web memes can transcend online audiences and speak to the mainstream. Writing Clicked on msnbc.com, with its mainstream pedigree and billion plus page views a month, I often struggle with the audience question. Sometimes my mainstream masters want to know how to make the Web work for them. Sometimes I want to know how to make the mainstream work for Clicked.

Both Maynard and Harding have received quite a bit of mainstream attention, Harding on the Today show, among other places, and Maynard on the Jimmy Kimmel show, and I asked them if they noticed a difference in the reception by nerd audiences versus mainstream audiences. Maynard's answer would prove to be one of the most powerful of the conference. He explained that the running joke for his appearances on Kimmel was, "Get laid yet?" which always brought uproarious laughter from the show's audience "but you'll notice no one here is laughing." Sure enough, the hall was dead quiet. Someone quickly lightening the moment with a joke shouted from the back, "That's because none of us are getting laid either!" And I don't mean to imply that nerds don't take humor at others' expense, but there's clearly some aspect of the nerd/geek perspective that makes it distinct from the general population.

Book smart vs. Web smart

Speaking of contrasts, day two of the conference opened with a speaker from academia whose presentation was remarkably parallel to what we'd learned anecdotally from Matt Harding and Jay Maynard the day before - except that she did it with big words and heady taxonomies. Just to be clear, I'm not one to bash academics, but this conference gave such direct access to people so entrenched in Web culture that as insightful as her presentation was, it was hard not to mentally ask, yeah, but when was the last time you were the subject of a Fark Photoshop contest?

Marwick, the day two keynote speaker, also raised, or re-raised, an issue of political correctness that popped up repeatedly throughout the conference. In essence, why were so many of the panelists white males and what were the white males doing to help non-white males achieve panel-worthy status. I'm not looking to pick the fight yet again, but since I'm already talking about social estrangement and bee girls, when the subject is social and cultural there's another oppressed minority that doesn't benefit from the activism of liberal bleeding hearts: smart kids.

A question of style

One interesting phrase that stuck with me from Marwick's presentation was that she described Internet microcelebrity as a style of performance. In a way, this recalls Weinberger's "network fame" (it's a style of fame) but what I like about it is that usually we talk about the rules of the Internet or what behaviors are typical. We see top ten lists and how-to checklists on how to succeed online. But to call it a style speaks more to the philosophy than the dogma.

Perhaps the exception that proves the rule, Randall Munroe, creator of the wildly popular xkcd cartoon confessed that while he's active in online social sites, he avoids feedback threads on his work for the sake of his mental health. I can only imagine how appearing in front of a giant MIT lecture hall packed with adulating fans affected his mental health.

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Edit note: For those of you coming in through RSS readers, or those of you who arrived for the early publishing of this item, yes it's changed a little. I had originally broken the piece into segments by identifying the panel associated with the subject being discussed. On good advice I replaced those notes with more traditional sub-headings to replace some of the irrelevant chronology with more useful labels.
Will, with all due respect, I think you should be careful when you compare the unfair treatment of (us) "smart kid" geeks with well-documented, on-going systemic racial and gender bias. ROFLCon was fantastic and the color/gender/age of the panelist is worth digging into not because it's some PC liberal pet issue but because it's curious, interesting, and meaningful!
Great coverage Will.  Lot's of great songs and people out there.   Sorry no one got Rick Rolled.  Lol.
@John - Lots of rickrolling, with boomboxes, with the projected "bachchannel" during panels, etc
John, as Daniel says, there was a group of people with boom boxes who would occasionally bus out with it in building lobbies or even in the middle of a panel.

The back channel he mentions was a Web site that allowed comments to be posted to giant projector screens above the stage. The idea was that people could post questions but often it received had jokes or snarks. And once it was totally Rickrolled. My pic of that:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/atestofwill/2444334859/in/set-72157604733179489/
Kevin, I don't mean to belittle the causes of racism and sexism as a whole, I just question their place for the panelists we saw. The way it was asked felt more like a checklist than curiosity -as if there are only three ingredients in any group of people, white guys, women, and racial minorities and they all need to be represented.  It's that kind of knee-jerk, rote social accounting that I object to. In fact, society is more complex than that and as much as I'd like to explore the social roots of nerd culture, casting the panelists as white male oppressors not only misses the point, it's 180 degrees from the point.
Sorry, Will - one of the least interesting posts you've ever had. As neither a blogger nor a technocrat, but just someone looking for a little online amusement to help stave off boredom on a slow day, I can usually find something entertaining on your blog. Not today, I'm afraid. Remember, not all of us are as fascinated by this geek stuff as you seem to be.
That's a fair position Brian. I felt like I had to post something about the weekend but I realize that's not what you come to Clicked for. I'll be back to normal today.
Fundamentally, the whole bit about race/gender of the panelists is an artifact, a result of the demographics of the geek population, not any deliberate attempt to exclude anyone.

The net, and Internet fame, is a meritocracy. The good, or the weird, get immortalized, regardless of irrelevant factors such as race or gender. Trying to drag those subjects into the discussion is little more than a naked attempt to politicize that which does not deserve it.
<i>The net, and Internet fame, is a meritocracy. The good, or the weird, get immortalized, regardless of irrelevant factors such as race or gender. Trying to drag those subjects into the discussion is little more than a naked attempt to politicize that which does not deserve it. </i>

I disagree strongly.  

The web is in some ways a meritocracy, but I'm afraid the residents aren't color-blind or gender-blind.  

There are certainly plenty of geeks who are women, and who are people of color, and who are even women of color.  The fact that the ROFLcon organizers failed entirely to include any of those geeks on the panels doesn't mean such people don't exist.

If they do exist, and they are funny and weird, why weren't they represented?  That's a question that deserves a far better response than "Oh, they're just not funny."

Blaming POC for not being funny enough?  FAIL.
If you don't like it, organize your own conference.  Organizers are under no duty to scour the landscape searching for diversity in representation on their panels.  It seems pretty clear to me, based upon nothing but raw observation, that the vast majority of techie nerds are white males.  Stands to reason that a panel of such people would usually reflect this fact.

I suspect if you had a panel of top physics and math students in California, it would be predominantly populated by Asians.  A reflection of bias?  I think not.
The geeks that were included on the panels were those who had achieved Internet celebrity, or had academic credentials (and of the two of those that were invited to give keynote addresses, one was a woman). Can you give examples of Internet celebrities that are women, or minorities, that were not invited? (FWIW, I believe Tay Zonday was, but I could be wrong.)

As with Will, I think there are people out there that demand that everyone answer questions about perceived racism or sexism, even when any such perceptions are not borne out in reality and/or are due to other causes than biases.
Part of the problem with this particular question is that we don't know who was invited and declined. Jay's right that the panelists we did see (and there were indeed some women on them) were there for reasons that weren't sex related. Chuck Norris Facts guy could just as easily have been Chuck Norris Facts gal. Who knew?

So I've been trying to think of which women could/should have been included, again without knowing who declined an invitation.

Many meme-people pointed out that a Boing Boing link was significant to their rise to fame. That would make Xeni a good pick for a woman panelist.
I'm thinking a Suicide Girl would have been good to include.
I'm sure they invited lonelygirl - but actually I think her producers would have more to say on that phenomenon and I'm pretty sure they're guys.
Obama girl.
That girl who just looks into the camera and only says a little bit in Japanese.
What's the name of that gal who did the sexy dance in the miniskirt and got on Howard Stern for having a nice butt? I don't know how many sex related female panelists they could book before that would become an issue of offense in itself.
I have to think they invited the Rocketboom host (and former host) and the guy was the only one who said yes.

The Feministing blogger might be cool to hear from. Blogs aren't really what ROFLCon was about but she had that photo go around the Web that made people accuse her of having too much breasts near Bill Clinton - or something like that. So she might have some insight on viral distribution.

Who else?
Seems to me that starting with the question, "Which women can we think of to invite?" is the wrong way to go about it.  

How about, let's find the best people to invite.  If none are women, or Hispanic, or Moslem, then those particular subsets of people are probably not well represented in the field you are investigating.  It's simply a fact of life.  If you had a panel of nurses, it would probably be heavily weighted to women.  If you had a panel of track and field gold medalists, it might have a preponderance of African-Americans.  It's only when a panel consists of predominantly white males that the quota folks come out of the woodwork.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think much of passing up the fifth best person (because he is a white male) in favor of the fiftieth best person, solely in a quest for "diversity".  But that's just me.


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