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John — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:50:41 GMT

First off, I'm surprised that Dworkin and Wolfe are still alive, but then I don't really run in those circles.

Then I was surprised to find that I actually agree with them. While not all men who view porn may be de-sensitized to real naked women, it does appear that for some men at least, porn can be addictive. I would like to see some unbiased research in that area.

Regardless, I don't think the 'porn genie' will ever get put back into the bottle.

What was also surprising was to see Wolfe, an uber-feminist, embrace cultural/religious practices elsewhere that would have her head exploding if anyone suggested that they be done here in the US. Can you imagine her reaction if Jerry Falwell had suggested that women voluntarily cover up so that only their husband would get to see their hair?

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P.g. Mulvaney, Boston, Ma. — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:59:34 GMT

In re: Helicopter crash resulting in homicide charges-
Now, let us assume that a fleeing suspect is responsible for an aircraft collision incidental to that suspect's resistence to arrest. Should be next assume that if an editor suffers a fatal coronary attack while working on an account of the story,the suspect is also to held accountable for that? How about if a truck driver, carrying a load of newpapers for sale and bearing a headline related to the criminal activity, hits a pedestrian? What if a common citizen driver hits a pedestrian while listening to the news account on the car radio? For a felony to occur there must be felonious intent. Revenge is not the same thing as justice; justice is the restoration of social order. This accident did not occur because of a violation of social order; it occurred because of poor piloting skills and the nature of gravity, as far as we can tell.

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Chris M, Buckeye AZ — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:23:48 GMT

FYI: Murder/manslaughter charges are NOT being filed against the fleeing suspect.

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Rick March, Seattle, WA — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:35:31 GMT

Re: men less interested in real sex with real women?
Oh, come on...

Nice piece, but, frankly, this is really stretching things... Here we are, in the U.S.A. of the 21st Century, possibly the most prude society in the Western world, lamenting that kids get such a high from porn that they can't get interested in real females any more... Uhm...Does not sound right to me. What there seems to be is a major conflict between a leftover sexual liberation from the 60s, and 70s, against a ridiculous backlash of religious prudery... So, male kids are concentrating on porn rather than their female peers, uh? Maybe, they have been set back, mentally, and emotionally, by social taboos, rather than by porn itself (like, porn is OK - nobody will know - while doing it is not... - oh, boy...)

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Rick March, Seattle, WA — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:45:52 GMT

Re; Why are we so scared of offending Muslims? This from the guy who wrote, "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything," so offending religious people is obviously not a problem for him.

Uhm.. So, what's your point? That, indeed, it is good to tiptoe around Muslim fanatics' preposterous claims, so as not to "offend" them? I hope not, but, if it was...

...Great! It used to be that America, as opposed to many European nations, specifically lacked laws condemning free speech "offensive" of religions. That was not a chance event - it is the First Amendment... But, apparently, we are now "beyond" that... :( Oh me, oh my... And, yes, the guy has no qualms about "offending" religious hacks, but, wait a minute, wasn't this country founded on free speech and no fear of religious persecution in the first place?

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Daniel Yunghans — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:44:07 GMT

"Sixteen states have felony pursuit laws on the books to protect people from dangerous high speed chases, and it's time that New York became the seventeenth," Sen.James Alesi said, Senate sponsor of the bill.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/051606PoliceFlee.html

Now, certainly there is a difference between police chasing a suspect and Action News teams doing so but the existence of "felonius intent" does not seem to be the necessary criteria. Felonius consequence, perhaps?

Ps. 20/20.

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chip navarro — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 04:28:25 GMT

blogging..... it's like going to a party and talking to as many people as you can hoping someone will say something interesting.. right.......

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Jason Mesches, Vista, CA — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:57:38 GMT

Sweet! So, does this mean that if I spill hot coffee on myself while I watch another low speed chase on tv, that I can sue the driver since "it never would have happened if..."

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Johnson — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:37:44 GMT

"Speaking of fake breasts and losing touch with reality, and really the point of my assembling this thread of links, could it be that watching porn actually makes men less interested in real sex with real women?"

I hope I live to the day that we have lifelike woman androids to do our every bidding. No arguments, no muss, no fuss, turn 'em off when you want.

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Elizabeth Jones, Phoenix, AZ — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:41:03 GMT

RE: Apparently in Colombia they're little more um... up front about breast implants.

Colombia is a country of male domination so the women there are pressured to conform to ideal body images and the result is acceptance of all types of plastic surgery, despite whatever costs and risks it may have.

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Michael, Halifax, Canada — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:35:39 GMT

So, smart people have less sex then average people? And porn makes guys less interested in real women? So smart guys, who can't get any because they are smart, turn to porn and then are no longer interested in real women? Is that why such a large percentage of the population seems to be barely competent enough to walk and chew gum at the same time?

Wow, I don't think I've ever been so depressed about having an above average IQ in my entire life. Thanks Will!

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Willi Wanker, My Own Private Idaho — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:07:16 GMT

No, we don't become "desensitized" to real, live women, we just get tired of all the emotional baggage and Oprah/Dr. Phil/Montel/Cosmo-induced bull****.
Porn allows one Neutrality in the "War of the Sexes".

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Lori, NC — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:13:28 GMT

Re porn. Yes, men can get addicted to porn and lose interest in real women. This happened to my husband after an accident that left him temporarily unable to perform for a few months. After his physical recovery he had no interest in the real thing but continued to spend every waking moment looking at porn on the computer. Only after I started filing for divorce and he had to come clean--only after hearing himself say that the only times he wasn't looking at porn was when he was asleep or at work did he realize he had a problem. Now he avoids porn and we're back to having a happy life together. And incidentally he's thanked me several times for making him take a close look at his own behavior. I suppose it's easier to see it in other people than in one's self.

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Ben, Chicago IL — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:01:21 GMT

Speaking of voting records, the majority of voting records from the Ohio 2004 presidential election were destroyed, illegally. These records would have been crucial evidence in seeing if the election was in fact 'stolen'. http://www.alternet.org/story/58328/
Nope, no conspiracy here, move along...

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Charles D. Few, Gaithersburg, MD — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:02:41 GMT

Anecdotal evidence taking by talking to reliable college student anecdote users has proven that people who use anecdotal evidence as evidence of anecdotes are more likely to be bored by anecdotes than people who rely on hard facts and statistics when sharing their anecdotes about people proving what they believe through anecdotal evidence.

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No Name, No State — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:22:13 GMT

As a wife of a porn addict, let me tell you porn can and does destroy marriages. I just pray to God that he will get ahold of him. Thats all I can do.

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Michael T, Hollywood, CA — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:22:42 GMT

I can't tell you how relieved I am that whale hunting is illegal in Utah. Now if we can just pass similar laws in Kansas, Nevada, Colorado and Arizona, this country will finally be back on the right track. Hey, John McCain, there's a campaign platform for ya...

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Heather, Evansville, IN — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:23:48 GMT

I asked my bf his view about the "porn desensitizes men to real sex" article, and this was his insightful response: "I agree porn doesn't turn men into sex crazed zombies. However, I think the article exaggerates its effect on mens' libidos towards real women. Porn might have a desensitizing affect, making sex and acts associated with sex more commonplace and therefore less scintillating. I still believe a man would 99% of the time prefer the real thing to pictures or movies. I think the article accurately expresses fears many women do have towards porn, but that doesn't mean there is any basis for alarm. After all, pictures only act on one of the senses; it will only be time to worry if a device could be made to act on them all. Even then, the human species on the whole tends to prefer the idea of the real vs. synthetic. Take the Matrix for example, even though it's just a movie, I believe it demonstrates our unwillingness to live in and with synthetic conditions."

Certainly makes me feel better.

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Yukon Sam, Baltimore, Maryland — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:58:01 GMT

In regards to the article on sex and intellegence, I am amused by the unsupported assertion that an arts major is less cognatively challenging than a science major. Might I presume that the author was a science major? I've studied both, and found that a cross-discipline approach not only massaged both hemispheres of my brain, but increased my dating success by a significant margin. I'll submit the graphs once my grant application is approved.

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ST, Tx — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:51:52 GMT

That's crap, does watching too many Outback steak commercials make you not want the real thing? It's simple will power, just like gambling or drinking. mind over matter or maybe you should try viewing it together.

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Ray — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:36:06 GMT

20 for 20 on the boob test!

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Jessica, North Carolina — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:09:08 GMT

I do believe that perhaps porn does desensitize some men, but my boyfriend/fiance and I both love porn, and it has improved our sex life immensely. We love to watch it together and alone. Maybe some of the women should try opening their minds and sharing this interest with their husbands/boyfriends.